Thursday, July 31, 2008

Debunking the same old same old

Ok, so I guess I was trolled by a Liberal supporter, and I started to reply in comments. Then I realized that it was going to be a damn long comment, so I decided to make it a post.

I will tackle some of the points the anonymous poster made.

Traction with the Electorate
There is some truth to this, the Conservatives are still having issues getting (and staying) into the high 30's low 40's. Some of this is left over fear mongering from past elections, and some of this is related to the bad press the government has gotten in the past weeks, some is policy related, and some is communication related. The communications related should start to clear up with a new communications director already mending fences with the Ottawa Press Gallery.

Weak Caucus
The Conservative caucus is stronger then people give credit for.:
  1. Jim Prentice
  2. John Baird
  3. Jim Flaherty
  4. Peter McKay
  5. Lawrence Cannon
  6. Rob Nicholas
  7. Chuck Strahl
  8. Monte Solberg
  9. Peter Van Loan
  10. Jay Hill
  11. Jason Kenney
  12. James Moore
They can all hold their own with any of the Liberal front bench. Some of these come from the Reform or Alliance side of the party, some come from the Progress Conservative side of the party.

Conservatives want to outlaw abortion
I guess I am being trolled, but the official Conservative party position is not to change the abortion laws. This was passed in the policy convention held in Montreal. That position is that "a Conservative government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion". Period.

Failure to scrap the Gun Registry
The gun registry is there, but amnesty has been granted for non-compliance. It is gone in all but name.

Income Trust
As for Income Trusts, yes a big flip flop. However, I trust the government in their decision on this. Why? Not because they are Conservatives, but because it hit their base right in the pocket book. Hit their base more then the NDP or even Liberal base. Why would they lie about the reasons in order to attack their base? That would make no sense. Seems like principles to me. Do what is right, not what is popular.

7 comments:

Red Tory said...

Just out of curiosity, why do you refer to it as being "trolled" by a Liberal supporter when someone who differs with your POV makes a comment?

I find this attitude surprisingly common on right-wing sites, but difficult to understand. Maybe you just prefer a circle-jerk or preaching to the choir...

AnonymousCoward said...

It was a controversial comment designed to elicit an emotional response. And it was somewhat off-topic to boot. The blog post was about the Liberal's inability to follow through on their threats. Not a post about the Conservative record, or my impressions of the government.

Anonymous said...

Typical mature drivel from 'Red Tory'

Red Tory said...

Interesting. This must be an example of the "civility" I hear so-called "conservatives" always keening and wailing about. ;)

AnonymousCoward said...

red tory, I would assume he is referring to your "circle jerk" comment.

Anonymous said...

The 12 names of cabinet ministers, with the exception of Prentice, are weaklings. If you have some doubt about that, just ask Harper. He keeps them on a shortleash and does not let them speak. Every vote in the House is a whipped "confidence" motion. Even Harper thinks they're weak (why else appoint Liberal-elect Emerson and Senator Fortier).

AnonymousCoward said...

anon are you serious?

Yes, John Baird is muzzled. He is such a quiet guy too!

No one ever hears from Peter Van Loan. Except during question period.

Peter McKay, hmm, didn't I just hear from him today?

I think I heard from Flaherty just yesterday.

etc etc